Easy RPG Creator for Stencyl 3.0 (ALPHA V0.3.4)

Siren Games

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Though, we're definitely seeking a better way to distribute the extension and I feel Adfly may not be the main download option much longer, I have to agree with Innes and Meestar.  You're either clicking on the ad instead of the actual download, which is digital literacy 101, or you already have adware on your computer.

I'd recommend downloading AdBlock Plus browser extension. It's totally free and works astonishingly well for Chrome.  I block probably 99% of ads from every site.  Adfly knows you're blocking ads though, so it takes longer to download.

Good luck.  I'll keep everyone posted on our new download page.

Jzyehoshua

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I have used Ad-Block Plus for the last 6 years or so. Ironically Ad-Block blocks the Adfly download and I have to turn off Ad-Block to even try the Adfly download link. However, it's obvious just from the download info from the installer that it's adware. I will quote from the OpenDownload Manager which Adfly uses for the Easy RPGCreator download:

"Install Search Protect to set my home page and default search to Trovi Search for Internet Explorer, Firefox, and Chrome, and prevent third parties from changing my browser's home page and search settings."

If you choose decline for that offer, it states "Are you sure you want to exit setup? To continue with the installation and if you agree to the current offers terms and conditions click OK, otherwise to exit click cancel." If choosing cancel it leaves the installation.

I'm not sure how in the world you don't think that is adware and spyware. Trovi Search is a spyware program that has messed up my computer before and getting the settings back was a hassle.  That it is requiring the settings be changed to perform the Easy RPGCreator download is absurd. I would like to use the software but not if it requires downloading spyware onto the computer.

Jzyehoshua

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And yes, Trovi Search is a virus.

http://malwaretips.com/blogs/trovi-search-removal
http://lavasoft.com/mylavasoft/company/blog/how-to-remove-trovi-search
http://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/solutions/10319

I'm not sure why multiple people here deny that Adfly forcing you to download adware/spyware/virus software onto the computer is ridiculous, but there has got to be a better download alternative.

Jzyehoshua

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Ah, just now realized what's going on. When going to the Adfly it automatically starts a fake download each time for OpenDownload Manager. You have to decline the offer and then choose the "Skip Ad" at the top right of the page. That is ridiculous that it starts a fake download though that you don't want automatically, a download for adware and spyware no less. I'm accustomed to seeing those fake ads pretending to be the real download, but Adfly is the only one I've ever seen that starts a download you don't want automatically.  That is downright deceitful the way they do that.

If it just showed the download option rather than starting to download it right away without giving you an option to skip the ad, that would be one thing, but it actually starts the download of the spyware program as soon as you enter the page, rather than just presenting the download link as an ad. I've never seen a site do that before. It's definitely unethical to start a virus download as part of an advertisement making it appear to be the real download.

rob1221

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No download is being started; it's just part of a very misleading ad.

Justin

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Yeah, it's certainly very misleading, but I've never been forced to download anything. And using AdBlock I still see the banner at the top that directs you to the actual download. Perhaps different AdBlock settings. But anyway, yeah, kinda like jumping through hoops. Direct download is much easier.

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Siren Games

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Again, for those of you who can't navigate adfly, we're working on hosting the download at an alternative location. Sorry for all the trouble we've caused you. Expect a new link by the middle of next week. We're extremely busy right now.

Jzyehoshua

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No download is being started; it's just part of a very misleading ad.

What do you mean? As soon as I click the link when the page loads it automatically starts the OpenDownloadManager download. There is no option to skip, it force starts the download as soon as you go to the page. That's what confused me, usually when a download starts automatically as soon as you enter a page you assume it's the download you want, not an adware download.  You have to actively exit the ODM download and only then do you see the "Skip Ad" option.

Jzyehoshua

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I just checked, maybe it is specific to Opera. I have Ad-Block Plus installed on both Firefox and Opera but for some reason on Firefox the issue doesn't occur. It's only on Opera that it starts the Open Download Manager download automatically with the Trovi Search adware, forcing you to exit the download before seeing the Skip Ad option. On Firefox the Open Download Manager link never even shows up, and it doesn't start the download automatically either. Maybe it's just a browser specific issue, or maybe Ad-Block Plus doesn't work as well on Opera, but it only seems to be occurring on Opera.

Jzyehoshua

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I tried Internet Explorer just now also (which has no Ad-Block Plus, unlike Firefox and Opera) and the Open Download Manager automatically starts there also. I guess it doesn't start when using Firefox, only when using Opera or IE. And if it's the Ad-Block Plus stopping it on Firefox, it's strange that Ad-Block Plus doesn't stop it on Opera. Either way though that's going to trick a lot of people who aren't browsing specifically with Firefox and Ad-Block Plus into downloading a known virus program rather than Easy RPG Creator though.

Justin

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Either way, Siren Games has already stated that they're working on making another download option available.

Hey Siren, I can host a download for you if you want, for until you've got time on your hands to set things up yourself.

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Meestar

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I tried Internet Explorer just now also (which has no Ad-Block Plus, unlike Firefox and Opera) and the Open Download Manager automatically starts there also. I guess it doesn't start when using Firefox, only when using Opera or IE. And if it's the Ad-Block Plus stopping it on Firefox, it's strange that Ad-Block Plus doesn't stop it on Opera. Either way though that's going to trick a lot of people who aren't browsing specifically with Firefox and Ad-Block Plus into downloading a known virus program rather than Easy RPG Creator though.

I just tested it with Internet Explorer, no Ad-Block, and it didn't automatically start any downloads for me?  I also use Firefox without Ad-Block and I don't have any problems.  I see an ad on the screen with a "Your Download Is Ready, Click Here to Download," but that's it.
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Jzyehoshua

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Either way, Siren Games has already stated that they're working on making another download option available.

Hey Siren, I can host a download for you if you want, for until you've got time on your hands to set things up yourself.

Yeah, just wanted to clarify that this is a serious issue. I noticed on the related wiki page that other people are having the same issue. I wouldn't be surprised if it's kept several people from downloading Easy RPG Creator altogether now.

Jzyehoshua

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I tried Internet Explorer just now also (which has no Ad-Block Plus, unlike Firefox and Opera) and the Open Download Manager automatically starts there also. I guess it doesn't start when using Firefox, only when using Opera or IE. And if it's the Ad-Block Plus stopping it on Firefox, it's strange that Ad-Block Plus doesn't stop it on Opera. Either way though that's going to trick a lot of people who aren't browsing specifically with Firefox and Ad-Block Plus into downloading a known virus program rather than Easy RPG Creator though.

I just tested it with Internet Explorer, no Ad-Block, and it didn't automatically start any downloads for me?  I also use Firefox without Ad-Block and I don't have any problems.  I see an ad on the screen with a "Your Download Is Ready, Click Here to Download," but that's it.

Strange, when I use Internet Explorer it starts the download automatically.  I am using Version 11.0.9600.17207 of IE right now.

Siren Games

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I tried Internet Explorer just now also (which has no Ad-Block Plus, unlike Firefox and Opera) and the Open Download Manager automatically starts there also. I guess it doesn't start when using Firefox, only when using Opera or IE. And if it's the Ad-Block Plus stopping it on Firefox, it's strange that Ad-Block Plus doesn't stop it on Opera. Either way though that's going to trick a lot of people who aren't browsing specifically with Firefox and Ad-Block Plus into downloading a known virus program rather than Easy RPG Creator though.

I've used Adfly MANY times in the past before knowing about ABP and I've never had any viruses or sketchy pop ups like that.  I have a feeling it's an issue with Opera's security allowing a pop up from Adfly that shouldn't be allowed. 

Since we're openly discussing download strategies, I'd like to ask:  I'm interested in collecting interested party's email addresses for future updates of ERC and possibly other future game releases by our studio.  Basically a mailing letter.  If we went the route of putting the download behind an email address form, we'd obviously make this an option and only email those who checked the "I'd like email about future updates" box.  Would anyone have a problem with this?  Obviously after filling out the form you'd get a direct download with no further hoops. 

I'm not trying to make this a hassle, but we're trying to monetize our passion lately and this is a business strategy I've seen hundreds of times to collect future marketing information.  If not, I'll just make a gigantic freaking "DONATE" button on our download page right below the link.  Again, I don't expect to make a ton of money on ERC, but our "secret project" is something we'd like to monetize if it works out, and it'd be nice to have a client list to contact to help boost our userbase. 

I feel transparency is the best business policy.  Give me some opinions.